From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Sep 7 17:52:53 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:52:53 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from last nights meeting In-Reply-To: References: <18eb5f46-6b50-ecbe-e97e-acc83de84329@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <87179a08-88ea-e572-c12b-d80e9bd291eb@geeklan.co.uk> Hi Omer, On 08/23/17 11:53, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: > I want to be informed about *BSD events in London/UK. I am a long time > FreeBSD Contributor so would like to know events but not sure how can I get > notified events before they occour ;) Just stay subscribed to the list. The events are organised/announced here :) Sevan From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Sep 7 18:11:59 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 18:11:59 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] September's London *BSD meeting 26/09/17 Message-ID: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> Hello, This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears. Tuesday the 26th, 6:30 onwards?? The Hand & Shears 1 Middle Street Cloth Fair London EC1A 7JA Tel: 020 7600 0257 http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Sevan From james.c.elstone at ntlworld.com Thu Sep 7 18:50:28 2017 From: james.c.elstone at ntlworld.com (James Elstone) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 18:50:28 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] September's London *BSD meeting 26/09/17 In-Reply-To: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> References: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <001201d32801$cacda730$6068f590$@c.elstone@ntlworld.com> Hi! Can anyone come along?! Kr, James! -----Original Message----- From: Ukfreebsd [mailto:ukfreebsd-bounces at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Sevan Janiyan Sent: 07 September 2017 18:12 To: ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org Cc: uk-openbsd-users at saneusergroup.org.uk Subject: [Ukfreebsd] September's London *BSD meeting 26/09/17 Hello, This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears. Tuesday the 26th, 6:30 onwards?? The Hand & Shears 1 Middle Street Cloth Fair London EC1A 7JA Tel: 020 7600 0257 http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Sevan _______________________________________________ Ukfreebsd mailing list Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Sep 7 19:22:45 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:22:45 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] September's London *BSD meeting 26/09/17 In-Reply-To: <001201d32801$cacda730$6068f590$@c.elstone@ntlworld.com> References: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> <001201d32801$cacda730$6068f590$@c.elstone@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <88439478-48d6-06d5-787f-f9135556f90d@geeklan.co.uk> On 07/09/2017 18:50, James Elstone wrote: > Can anyone come along?! Absolutely. Sevan From omerfsen at gmail.com Thu Sep 7 21:43:46 2017 From: omerfsen at gmail.com (Omer Faruk Sen) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 21:43:46 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from last nights meeting In-Reply-To: <87179a08-88ea-e572-c12b-d80e9bd291eb@geeklan.co.uk> References: <18eb5f46-6b50-ecbe-e97e-acc83de84329@geeklan.co.uk> <87179a08-88ea-e572-c12b-d80e9bd291eb@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <45DF8E8D-31AE-4789-8B2B-5479E2E43D94@gmail.com> Thanks. Will keep an extra eye on the mailing list from now on Sent using mobile phone > On 7 Sep 2017, at 17:52, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > > Hi Omer, > >> On 08/23/17 11:53, Omer Faruk SEN wrote: >> I want to be informed about *BSD events in London/UK. I am a long time >> FreeBSD Contributor so would like to know events but not sure how can I get >> notified events before they occour ;) > > Just stay subscribed to the list. The events are organised/announced here :) > > > Sevan > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Tue Sep 26 10:17:23 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:17:23 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] September's London *BSD meeting 26/09/17 In-Reply-To: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> References: <8a25f393-4806-f0b3-36a7-17ef5ff3dc2e@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <94EEB8DA-A49E-449D-B354-F57F4C33EECC@geeklan.co.uk> > On 7 Sep 2017, at 18:11, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > > Hello, > This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears. > > Tuesday the 26th, 6:30 onwards?? > > The Hand & Shears > 1 Middle Street > Cloth Fair > London > EC1A 7JA > Tel: 020 7600 0257 > http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Just as a heads up, this is today :) Sevan From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Sep 28 11:28:55 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:28:55 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from Tuesday's meeting Message-ID: <35623dd9-e941-bd0b-bb20-65bba136619d@geeklan.co.uk> LTO and using LLD Binutils Gnu replacement Theo's talk at EuroBSDcon https://pastebin.com/4rGddSvG BROP (Blind Return Oriented Programming) http://www.scs.stanford.edu/brop/ Rust FFI macallan at NetBSD's work on framebuffer support Micropolis BW (Big Warehouse) Clumsy payment systems poorly implementing hmac C++ ABI drama (C++11, 14 & 17 support) Collation fun cat -v & utf-8 (FreeBSD bug 210995) cat -be vs cat -ne (FreeBSD bug 210607) DNT (Do Not Track) impelementations Mozilla & change of plugin support Working with Numa on SGI Origin 200 & 2000 systems ATM to the desk Eclipse horrors FreeBSD on POWER8 http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=3329 Hindering portability with POSIX extensions Running Netbsd on the ThinkPad T530 Java development on a Netbsd desktop No more trackpoint imprints on the Thinkpad display by embedding the trackpoint deeper inside the keyboard Capsicumised pkg From theraven at FreeBSD.org Thu Sep 28 11:31:46 2017 From: theraven at FreeBSD.org (David Chisnall) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 11:31:46 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from Tuesday's meeting In-Reply-To: <35623dd9-e941-bd0b-bb20-65bba136619d@geeklan.co.uk> References: <35623dd9-e941-bd0b-bb20-65bba136619d@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <4BCBB45B-1B04-4538-94EC-9AFE4F42D644@FreeBSD.org> On 28 Sep 2017, at 11:28, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > > C++ ABI drama (C++11, 14 & 17 support) What is the drama here? C++14 and 17 are intended to be ABI compatible with 11, though there are a small number of errata to 11 that cause issues. Libc++ has a bunch of standard-independent ABI-breaking changes that are behind #ifdefs that we?ll probably flip the switch for (with a SONAME bump) in FreeBSD 12. David From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Sep 28 12:38:13 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 12:38:13 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from Tuesday's meeting In-Reply-To: <4BCBB45B-1B04-4538-94EC-9AFE4F42D644@FreeBSD.org> References: <35623dd9-e941-bd0b-bb20-65bba136619d@geeklan.co.uk> <4BCBB45B-1B04-4538-94EC-9AFE4F42D644@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <6a02fb06-a561-2602-49f1-65f663ed53ab@geeklan.co.uk> On 28/09/2017 11:31, David Chisnall wrote: > What is the drama here? C++14 and 17 are intended to be ABI > compatible with 11, though there are a small number of errata to 11 > that cause issues. Libc++ has a bunch of standard-independent > ABI-breaking changes that are behind #ifdefs that we?ll probably flip > the switch for (with a SONAME bump) in FreeBSD 12. The combination of things when working in a packaging system where you're packaging old and new codebases relying on different standards, old versions of boost, different C++ libraries. The Conversation then moved on to swearing about boost. Sevan From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Sat Sep 30 15:15:29 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 15:15:29 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October's London *BSD meeting 10/10/17 Message-ID: <4442ef3e-e505-3913-fab6-3d71974ee72d@geeklan.co.uk> Hello, This months meeting once again will be at the pub called The Hand and Shears. Our visiting guest this month will be NetBSD developer, Cherry G. Matthew. Tuesday the 10th, 6:30 onwards?? The Hand & Shears 1 Middle Street Cloth Fair London EC1A 7JA Tel: 020 7600 0257 http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Sevan