From andrew at fubar.geek.nz  Mon Mar 13 02:29:42 2017
From: andrew at fubar.geek.nz (Andrew Turner)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 11:29:42 +0900
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Cambridge BSD Pub - 27 March
Message-ID: <AF6210A8-11EC-448C-A034-F3FB0404BD6A@fubar.geek.nz>

Hello all,

I would like to invite you to the March edition of the Cambridge BSD Pub meet up. It will be at the Devonshire Arms on Devonshire Road from 19:00 Monday 27 March.

Andrew

From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk  Wed Mar 15 14:12:43 2017
From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:12:43 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Fwd: [eurobsdcon-announce] EuroBSDcon Call for
 Proposals in Paris, France 21-24.9.2017
Message-ID: <ed71ba05-077e-5e1d-c3db-f6fc7ccaae3a@geeklan.co.uk>

-------- Forwarded Message --------
On behalf of the EuroBSDCon 2017 Program Committee, here is the Call for
Proposals for the EuroBSDCon 2017 conference which will take place in Paris,
France from 21st through 24th of September 2017:

    https://2017.eurobsdcon.org/call-for-proposals/

Closing date for the CfP is April, 30th.

Please submit your proposals!

Thanks,

-- 
Antoine Jacoutot for the EuroBSDCon 2017 PC

From mark.rutland at arm.com  Wed Mar 15 17:26:45 2017
From: mark.rutland at arm.com (Mark Rutland)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:26:45 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Cambridge BSD Pub - 27 March
In-Reply-To: <AF6210A8-11EC-448C-A034-F3FB0404BD6A@fubar.geek.nz>
References: <AF6210A8-11EC-448C-A034-F3FB0404BD6A@fubar.geek.nz>
Message-ID: <20170315172645.GE9404@leverpostej>

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 11:29:42AM +0900, Andrew Turner wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I would like to invite you to the March edition of the Cambridge BSD
> Pub meet up. It will be at the Devonshire Arms on Devonshire Road from
> 19:00 Monday 27 March.

See you there!

Mark.

From andy at time-domain.co.uk  Tue Mar 21 09:23:52 2017
From: andy at time-domain.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:23:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>

I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers & firewalls, 
etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a 
desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI 
slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in this 
machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.

I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based 
on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on 
PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work 
under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I 
thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound 
card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the 
way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the 
single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Andy

----------------------------
Andy Thomas,
Time Domain Systems

Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
http://www.time-domain.co.uk

From paul.g.webster at googlemail.com  Tue Mar 21 10:44:33 2017
From: paul.g.webster at googlemail.com (Paul Webster)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>

think I would just slap in a bluetooth adapter (+blue tooth headphones) or
a cheap usb sound card, why waste the pci-e slot :)

On 21 March 2017 at 09:23, andy thomas <andy at time-domain.co.uk> wrote:

> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers & firewalls,
> etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a
> desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI
> slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in this
> machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>
> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>
> Andy
>
> ----------------------------
> Andy Thomas,
> Time Domain Systems
>
> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> Ukfreebsd mailing list
> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>

From paul.g.webster at googlemail.com  Tue Mar 21 10:45:46 2017
From: paul.g.webster at googlemail.com (Paul Webster)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:45:46 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADdqeiM4KvqeUNMdccV7muZ3HqOzE+u3oE-z9RM6JmdXtiAp-A@mail.gmail.com>

or perhaps get two pci's and a usb 3? (not sure of support)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PCI-E-express-riser-USB3-0-cable/dp/B00N1VJZII/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DQ7SQ7YQM1X4WRMJEDCZ

On 21 March 2017 at 10:44, Paul Webster <paul.g.webster at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> think I would just slap in a bluetooth adapter (+blue tooth headphones) or
> a cheap usb sound card, why waste the pci-e slot :)
>
> On 21 March 2017 at 09:23, andy thomas <andy at time-domain.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers &
>> firewalls, etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower
>> server as a desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it
>> has no PCI slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound
>> cards in this machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
>> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
>> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
>> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
>> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
>> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
>> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
>> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Andy Thomas,
>> Time Domain Systems
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
>> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ukfreebsd mailing list
>> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
>> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
>> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
>> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>>
>
>

From andy at time-domain.co.uk  Tue Mar 21 11:08:22 2017
From: andy at time-domain.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 11:08:22 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <CADdqeiM4KvqeUNMdccV7muZ3HqOzE+u3oE-z9RM6JmdXtiAp-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADdqeiM4KvqeUNMdccV7muZ3HqOzE+u3oE-z9RM6JmdXtiAp-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703211057030.1509@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Paul Webster wrote:

> or perhaps get two pci's and a usb 3? (not sure of support)
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/PCI-E-express-riser-USB3-0-cable/dp/B00N1VJZII/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DQ7SQ7YQM1X4WRMJEDCZ

That PCI-e to dual PCI riser card is an interesting-looking solution for 
me as I could use a Creative LiveDrive II Platinum PCI card as well as 
fitting the attached LiveDrive front panel with knobs & jack sockets, etc 
into an unused 5.252 front bay. If I can't find a neat PCI-e solution 
(there are 5 empty PCI-e x1 slots so I'm happy to give one up for sound), 
I might well the go the PCI-e > PCI riser route.

Thanks for the heads-up on the PCI-e to PCI riser!

Andy

> On 21 March 2017 at 10:44, Paul Webster <paul.g.webster at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> think I would just slap in a bluetooth adapter (+blue tooth headphones) or
>> a cheap usb sound card, why waste the pci-e slot :)
>>
>> On 21 March 2017 at 09:23, andy thomas <andy at time-domain.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers &
>>> firewalls, etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower
>>> server as a desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it
>>> has no PCI slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound
>>> cards in this machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
>>> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
>>> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
>>> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
>>> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
>>> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
>>> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
>>> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Andy Thomas,
>>> Time Domain Systems
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
>>> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ukfreebsd mailing list
>>> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
>>> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
>>> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
>>> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
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> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>

From ruslan.bukin at cl.cam.ac.uk  Tue Mar 21 10:36:16 2017
From: ruslan.bukin at cl.cam.ac.uk (Ruslan Bukin)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:36:16 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>

Depends on budget. I can recommend RME HDSPe AIO card, we have snd_hdspe driver for that.
I am using it about 4 years and I think it provides the best sound quality across other supported cards. But it is expensive (it has FPGA chip for merging audio streams, which is not something you look for).

Ruslan

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:23:52AM +0000, andy thomas wrote:
> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers & firewalls, 
> etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a 
> desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI 
> slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in this 
> machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
> 
> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based 
> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on 
> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work 
> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I 
> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound 
> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the 
> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the 
> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> 
> Andy
> 
> ----------------------------
> Andy Thomas,
> Time Domain Systems
> 
> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
> _______________________________________________
> Ukfreebsd mailing list
> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net

From paul.g.webster at googlemail.com  Tue Mar 21 13:47:18 2017
From: paul.g.webster at googlemail.com (Paul Webster)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:47:18 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
Message-ID: <CADdqeiPEuotO8ECuc_2+nr=1hz2gE8Q1ZDWcYwbHgDWYOD_arw@mail.gmail.com>

As a bit of fun for that riser ... assuming your case is 'fit' to your
motherboard so you have no spare space at the bottom, you could reverse the
mounting panel on your pci card;s (so its upside down) and mount the card
upside down the the pci bridge on the 'top' so to say :)

On 21 March 2017 at 10:36, Ruslan Bukin <ruslan.bukin at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Depends on budget. I can recommend RME HDSPe AIO card, we have snd_hdspe
> driver for that.
> I am using it about 4 years and I think it provides the best sound quality
> across other supported cards. But it is expensive (it has FPGA chip for
> merging audio streams, which is not something you look for).
>
> Ruslan
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:23:52AM +0000, andy thomas wrote:
> > I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers &
> firewalls,
> > etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a
> > desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI
> > slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in
> this
> > machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
> >
> > I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
> > on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
> > PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
> > under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
> > thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
> > card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
> > way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
> > single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > ----------------------------
> > Andy Thomas,
> > Time Domain Systems
> >
> > Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
> > Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
> > http://www.time-domain.co.uk
> > _______________________________________________
> > Ukfreebsd mailing list
> > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
> > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
> > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
> _______________________________________________
> Ukfreebsd mailing list
> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>

From theraven at FreeBSD.org  Tue Mar 21 13:47:00 2017
From: theraven at FreeBSD.org (David Chisnall)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:47:00 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <CADdqeiNxO7XsVU-AUCp__xEbWQbNowrrvLFV1nS1eCPjyQgNfA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A07D5BBF-0B21-4572-AA89-27A5351F8B8D@FreeBSD.org>

On 21 Mar 2017, at 10:44, Paul Webster <paul.g.webster at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> think I would just slap in a bluetooth adapter (+blue tooth headphones) or
> a cheap usb sound card, why waste the pci-e slot :)

One of my friends did some tests of sound quality a few years back and found that the cheap USB ones were better than anything internal.  It turns out that putting the DACs a few feet away from the computer makes a much bigger difference than anything in the component quality.

David


From andy at time-domain.co.uk  Tue Mar 21 16:46:16 2017
From: andy at time-domain.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:46:16 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703211641520.5597@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Ruslan Bukin wrote:

> Depends on budget. I can recommend RME HDSPe AIO card, we have snd_hdspe driver for that.
> I am using it about 4 years and I think it provides the best sound quality across other supported cards. But it is expensive (it has FPGA chip for merging audio streams, which is not something you look for).

I had a look at this and it seems very nice - looks like it's intended for 
professional studio use. But I can't justify spending around 550 ukp on a 
sound card. Anyway, next week I will be able to borrow an Audigy RX 7.1 
card to try out so I'll report back here on progress.

Andy

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:23:52AM +0000, andy thomas wrote:
>> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers & firewalls,
>> etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a
>> desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI
>> slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in this
>> machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>>
>> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
>> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
>> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
>> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
>> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
>> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
>> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
>> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Andy Thomas,
>> Time Domain Systems
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
>> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ukfreebsd mailing list
>> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
>> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
>> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
>> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
> _______________________________________________
> Ukfreebsd mailing list
> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd
> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk
> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net
>

From andy at time-domain.co.uk  Tue Mar 21 16:59:19 2017
From: andy at time-domain.co.uk (andy thomas)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:59:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <CADdqeiPEuotO8ECuc_2+nr=1hz2gE8Q1ZDWcYwbHgDWYOD_arw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
 <CADdqeiPEuotO8ECuc_2+nr=1hz2gE8Q1ZDWcYwbHgDWYOD_arw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703211647020.5597@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>

On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Paul Webster wrote:

> As a bit of fun for that riser ... assuming your case is 'fit' to your
> motherboard so you have no spare space at the bottom, you could reverse the
> mounting panel on your pci card;s (so its upside down) and mount the card
> upside down the the pci bridge on the 'top' so to say :)

There's a lot of room inside the case but not that easy to make use of as 
there's this enormous plastic shroud that directs air over the CPUs and 
DIMMs. It would be possible to make up brackets, etc & fix it near the top 
but I'll try an Audigy RX 7.1 card on loan first - I'm rather keen on this 
solution if I can get it to work as it has an on-board headphone amp which 
will drive high impedance phones (such as vintage Koss Pro 4AA's, which 
are 600 ohms) better than most cards intended for low impendance loads.

Andy

> On 21 March 2017 at 10:36, Ruslan Bukin <ruslan.bukin at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Depends on budget. I can recommend RME HDSPe AIO card, we have snd_hdspe
>> driver for that.
>> I am using it about 4 years and I think it provides the best sound quality
>> across other supported cards. But it is expensive (it has FPGA chip for
>> merging audio streams, which is not something you look for).
>>
>> Ruslan
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:23:52AM +0000, andy thomas wrote:
>>> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers &
>> firewalls,
>>> etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a
>>> desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI
>>> slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in
>> this
>>> machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be based
>>> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
>>> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
>>> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
>>> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
>>> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
>>> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1 (the
>>> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Andy Thomas,
>>> Time Domain Systems
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
>>> http://www.time-domain.co.uk
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ukfreebsd mailing list
>>> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org
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From paul.g.webster at googlemail.com  Tue Mar 21 18:48:27 2017
From: paul.g.webster at googlemail.com (Paul Webster)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:48:27 +0000
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Recommendations for a PCI-e soundcard?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703211647020.5597@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1703210908490.28449@mail0.time-domain.co.uk>
 <20170321103616.GA77377@bsdpad.com>
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@andy thomas;

Excellent, as an aside if your pcie card does not work and you go for the
pci/pci-e splitter, you can get flexible pci expansions as well, basically
there a tape expansion from the port to the card:

http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_226965_3.jpg



On 21 March 2017 at 16:59, andy thomas <andy at time-domain.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Mar 2017, Paul Webster wrote:
>
> As a bit of fun for that riser ... assuming your case is 'fit' to your
>> motherboard so you have no spare space at the bottom, you could reverse
>> the
>> mounting panel on your pci card;s (so its upside down) and mount the card
>> upside down the the pci bridge on the 'top' so to say :)
>>
>
> There's a lot of room inside the case but not that easy to make use of as
> there's this enormous plastic shroud that directs air over the CPUs and
> DIMMs. It would be possible to make up brackets, etc & fix it near the top
> but I'll try an Audigy RX 7.1 card on loan first - I'm rather keen on this
> solution if I can get it to work as it has an on-board headphone amp which
> will drive high impedance phones (such as vintage Koss Pro 4AA's, which are
> 600 ohms) better than most cards intended for low impendance loads.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On 21 March 2017 at 10:36, Ruslan Bukin <ruslan.bukin at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on budget. I can recommend RME HDSPe AIO card, we have snd_hdspe
>>> driver for that.
>>> I am using it about 4 years and I think it provides the best sound
>>> quality
>>> across other supported cards. But it is expensive (it has FPGA chip for
>>> merging audio streams, which is not something you look for).
>>>
>>> Ruslan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:23:52AM +0000, andy thomas wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've long used FreeBSD as a desktop OS as well as for servers &
>>>>
>>> firewalls,
>>>
>>>> etc and I've now started using a Dell Poweredge T710 tower server as a
>>>> desktop PC as it's fast with lots of memory & storage. But it has no PCI
>>>> slots, only PCI-e so I can't use tried & tested PCI bus sound cards in
>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>> machine which are known to be supported by FreeBSD.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking of buying the Creative Audigy RX 7.1 as it seems to be
>>>> based
>>>> on a revised version of the EMU10k2 chipset which I use under FreeBSD on
>>>> PCI-bus systems and won't be an expensive flop if I can't get it to work
>>>> under BSD (I can put it into a Linux box instead). But before doing so I
>>>> thought I'd ask here first in case someone has already got a PCI-e sound
>>>> card working under FreeBSD. Does anyone have any recommendations? By the
>>>> way, the card has to be a PCI-e x1 type as all the free slots are x1
>>>> (the
>>>> single x16 slot is already filled with a nVidia graphics card).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>> Andy Thomas,
>>>> Time Domain Systems
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +44 (0)7866 556626
>>>> Fax: +44 (0)20 8372 2582
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From andrew at fubar.geek.nz  Mon Mar 27 10:53:02 2017
From: andrew at fubar.geek.nz (Andrew Turner)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:53:02 +0100
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Cambridge BSD Pub - 27 March
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> On 13 Mar 2017, at 02:29, Andrew Turner <andrew at fubar.geek.nz> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I would like to invite you to the March edition of the Cambridge BSD Pub meet up. It will be at the Devonshire Arms on Devonshire Road from 19:00 Monday 27 March.
> 

This is tonight. See you all there.

Andrew


From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk  Fri Mar 31 19:33:40 2017
From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:33:40 +0100
Subject: [Ukfreebsd] April's London *BSD meetup
Message-ID: <5b2138f8-5e40-2ce3-f401-9eb62eed2e33@geeklan.co.uk>

Hello,
After a brief break for 2017Q1, I propose a meeting at The Old Red
Cow[1] next month (same venue as previous meetings) to kick 2017 off! :)

April 19th, 6:30 onwards?

The Old Red Cow
71/72 Long Lane
Barbican
EC1A 9EJ
+442077262595


Sevan
[1] http://theoldredcow.com/location/