From rvrnt at use.startmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:00:23 2017 From: rvrnt at use.startmail.com (Mr Vanderdenduur) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 10:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] =?utf-8?q?Librem_or_Libreboot=E2=80=A6?= Message-ID: Hello all, maybe good alternative laptops for FreeBSD: Libreboot and Librem Vanderdenduur ? From rvrnt at use.startmail.com Sat Jun 3 10:11:55 2017 From: rvrnt at use.startmail.com (Mr Vanderdenduur) Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 10:11:55 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] =?utf-8?q?Librem_or_Libreboot=E2=80=A6?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oops! NetBSD, OpenBSD and LibertyBSD users can rejoice! https://libreboot.org/faq.html#can-i-use-bsd Vanderdenduur Le 03/06/2017 ? 10:00, Mr Vanderdenduur a ?crit : > Hello all, > > maybe good alternative laptops for FreeBSD: Libreboot > and Librem > > > Vanderdenduur > > ? > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net -- Sent from my Superb MacBook Pro GT Twin-turbo From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Mon Jun 12 16:34:27 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:34:27 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] June's London *BSD meetup - 16/06/17 Message-ID: Hello, This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears (it's around the corner from our previous regular venue). Our visiting guest this month is Thomas Klausner . Friday the 16th, 6:30 onwards?? The Hand & Shears 1 Middle Street Cloth Fair London EC1A 7JA Tel: 020 7600 0257 http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Sevan From rvrnt at use.startmail.com Mon Jun 12 17:02:44 2017 From: rvrnt at use.startmail.com (Mr Vanderdenduur) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:02:44 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] June's London *BSD meetup - 16/06/17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Too bad? I'll be on trip. See you the month after. Have all fun on Friday. best, Raf Le 12/06/2017 ? 16:34, Sevan Janiyan a ?crit : > Hello, > This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears > (it's around the corner from our previous regular venue). > Our visiting guest this month is Thomas Klausner . > > Friday the 16th, 6:30 onwards?? > > The Hand & Shears > 1 Middle Street > Cloth Fair > London > EC1A 7JA > Tel: 020 7600 0257 > http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk > > Sevan > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net From tj at enoti.me Mon Jun 12 18:57:40 2017 From: tj at enoti.me (tj) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:57:40 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] June's London *BSD meetup - 16/06/17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170612175739.GA50156@tom-desk.erg.abdn.ac.uk> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 04:34:27PM +0100, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Hello, > This months meeting will again be at the pub called The Hand and Shears > (it's around the corner from our previous regular venue). > Our visiting guest this month is Thomas Klausner . > Are there any plans for another weekend BSD hack weekend in London? I would love to attend one, but the journey all the way down from Scotland needs a little planning. Could this maybe discussed on Friday? Reciprocally, I will happily host one if anyone wants to join me in Aberdeen. - [tj] From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Tue Jun 13 14:50:54 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 14:50:54 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] pkgsrcCon 2017 London, registration open Message-ID: Hello, Registration for pkgsrcCon, London is now open[1]. A pre-event social will be held at the end of the month (details will be post on the website[2]). Saturday the 1st of July we will hold a day of talks at The BCS followed by another social event and on Sunday the 2nd of July we'll have a hack day at the London Hack Space. The events are open to all, there are no tickets on sale. However registration is required for The BCS on Saturday. Registration website closes on the 29th of June. You are likely to hear the following talks to on Saturday and others (waiting for replies). In no particular order: Giovanni Bechis - Pledge in OpenBSD Pierre Pronchery - pkg-query Thomas Merkel - Testing your pkgsrc development on multiple platforms with vagrant and virtualbox Sevan Janiyan - A mix of two halves Bennie Siegert - Bulk builds in the cloud Alistair Crooks - pkgsrc - foundations & abstractions, building from source on 23 platforms Alistair Crooks - Running a third of the internet on BSD David Spencer - Slackbuilds Charles Forsyth - Something regarding portability (details TBA) Vsevlod Stakhov - The architecture of Pkg - a modern package manager for BSD systems If you would like to give a talk on Saturday, we still have slots open. Sevan [1] https://events.bcs.org/book/2610/ [2] http://pkgsrc.org/pkgsrcCon/2017/ From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Fri Jun 16 11:27:44 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 11:27:44 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] pkgsrcCon 2017 London, registration open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b2bb211-049f-d2c2-5a30-0eafc034d8ff@geeklan.co.uk> On 13/06/2017 14:50, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Charles Forsyth - Something regarding portability (details TBA) Charles Forsyth - Not/configure "After abandoning UNIX in the late 1980s as a self-contained time-sharing system unsuitable for modern distributed environments, Bell Labs 1127 developed two further operating systems, Plan 9 and Inferno, with completely new kernels and new or substantially reworked programs in user space. Both systems emphasise portability. Following a brief summary of that alternative universe, I shall explore various aspects of that portability. Compilers, tools, conventions, simplicity and restraint all play their part." From david at cantrell.org.uk Fri Jun 16 13:48:18 2017 From: david at cantrell.org.uk (David Cantrell) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 13:48:18 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] pkgsrcCon 2017 London, registration open In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20170616124818.GA29181@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 02:50:54PM +0100, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Registration for pkgsrcCon, London is now open[1]... > > In no particular order: > Giovanni Bechis - Pledge in OpenBSD > Pierre Pronchery - pkg-query > Thomas Merkel - Testing your pkgsrc development on multiple platforms > with vagrant and virtualbox > Sevan Janiyan - A mix of two halves > Bennie Siegert - Bulk builds in the cloud > Alistair Crooks - pkgsrc - foundations & abstractions, building from > source on 23 platforms > Alistair Crooks - Running a third of the internet on BSD > David Spencer - Slackbuilds > Charles Forsyth - Something regarding portability (details TBA) > Vsevlod Stakhov - The architecture of Pkg - a modern package manager for > BSD systems Looks very interesting, but alas I won't be able to make it. Will there be videos online afterwards? -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Sat Jun 17 11:22:25 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 11:22:25 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from yesterdays meeting Message-ID: <1a491986-c126-6843-a715-93acdb105a53@geeklan.co.uk> ipv6 sage t-shirts https://ipv6.he.net/certification/ pkgsrcCon demo session sorted https://twitter.com/pplsassembly/status/874754736595009536 strings in C++ 9+ hour bootstrap time for Rust on Illumos via pkgsrc bulkbuild Telegram cipher choices building silos with centralised services on a decentralised network mastodon social network Cultural differences between between technical communities who try to understand the strengths and weaknesses of their tools vs those that look to replace / rewrite at earliest opportunity (hello docker) the fight for pid one on a system which does PID randomisation how does performing postmortem debugging on a systems with KASLR work? Fun remote mounting media via supermicro ipmi interface Ravenports is a new approach to packaging not based on make https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports Fallout from latest Perl update in pkgsrc kauth subsystem in NetBSD distributed filesystems like AFS & Gluster Upspin Project http://upspin.io Rob Pike presenting Upspin https://youtu.be/giUatBmmb_Y?t=4757 SolarisStudio on Linux C++11 issues with SolarisStudio 12.4 http://libtrue.xyz see https://github.com/libtrue/libtrue/issues Encumbered true http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/ATT_Copyright_true.html Need for accelerometer support on tablet/laptop hybrids to set screen orientation correctly switch to shell based true in NetBSD http://gnats.netbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-single.pl?number=361 Smoke testing of all base utilities FreeBSD gsoc project https://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2017/SmokeTestingOfBaseUtilities veriexec always reports an error even completing successfully and becoming active TrustedBSD file system firewall SSD garbage collection & copy of on write file systems FreeBSD TRIM support in ZFS moving upstream to OpenZFS?? LFS - the reference COW filesystem?? NetAPP WAFLs - tasty and expensive Contentious project members who are unable to accept constructive feedback Opioid epidemics iptables loving pkgsrcCon - a romantic weekend everyone The person in the middle of systemd & docker https://lwn.net/Articles/676831/ clumsy & poorly implemented tools harbour bad habits e.g outlook users & email vi bindings in visualstudio Debian's reproducible builds project Decent laptop support in OpenBSD ACPI behaviour of Apple hardware between operating systems which report themselves as Darwin or other (Windows?) history of navigation via HJKL keys Issues with larger numbers with -j http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2017/06/14/msg018289.html More lua modules planned for NetBSD base From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Fri Jun 23 14:48:15 2017 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:48:15 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] pkgsrcCon 2017 London, pre-event social 30/6/17 Message-ID: Hello, The pre-event social will be at The Hand and Sheers pub, next Friday, from 7pm onwards. The Hand & Shears 1 Middle Street Cloth Fair London EC1A 7JA Tel: 020 7600 0257 http://www.thehandandshears.co.uk Look out for someone wearing a blue wireframe beastie OpenBSD t-shirt[1] Sevan [1] https://www.openbsd.org/images/tshirt-2.jpg