From jeremy.emil at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 15:23:23 2016 From: jeremy.emil at gmail.com (Jeremy Emil) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 15:23:23 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] BUG Message-ID: Hi, We have started a new linux, bsd open-source software in Richmond maker space http://wiki.richmondmakerlabs.uk/index.php/Linux,_BSD_and_Open_Source Next meet this monday. Best, Jeremy From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Oct 6 21:50:57 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 21:50:57 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] =?utf-8?b?RndkOiBbb3NodWddIE9TSFVHICM0NiDigJQgRW1i?= =?utf-8?q?edded_Platforms=2C_Thursday_17th_March=2E?= In-Reply-To: <56C734FB.2020103@geeklan.co.uk> References: <56C734FB.2020103@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <6a1d6c05-da27-0a4b-d89d-775c6b4ed82d@geeklan.co.uk> Hello, Videos from this event are now available up on youtube. Linked below, in-line. On 19/02/2016 15:30, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Event #46 ? Embedded Platforms (BSD, OpenWRT, Plan 9 & Inferno) > > On the 17 March 2016, 18:00 - 20:00 at BCS London, 1st Floor, The > Davidson Building, 5 Southampton Street, London, WC2E 7HA. > > Registration: http://oshug.org/event/46 > > The forty-sixth OSHUG meeting will take a look at embedded platforms, > with talks on the BSD family of operating systems, Linux and OpenWRT, > and Plan 9 and Inferno in distributed systems. > > ? The BSD Family of Operating Systems > > A familiar environment for your VAX, PIC32 or RISC-V ISA and many > other platforms. > > The Berkeley Software Distribution started out as a patch set to AT&T > UNIX in the 70's and grew to a complete Operating Systems. Today > several projects continue to develop variant operating systems based > on the work originally started by the Computer Science Research Group, > each with a different area of focus. > > This presentation will cover some of the benefits these operating > systems can offer to aid the workflow of a hardware project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toFEcOeeh1Y > ? Developing Linux based products in the connected devices ecosystem > -- The OpenWRT Approach > > Linux is accepted as a standard component of the Internet of Things > domain. With the abundance of development platforms and the abhorrent > state of vendor provided SDKs, getting started with and more > importantly the maintenance of Linux powered devices is pretty much a > dark art these days. > > This talk focuses on the mass market hardware platforms of interest to > folks building the Next Great IoT ProductTM and how the development > could be sped up with OpenWRT. To supplement the topic of product > development, a couple of noteworthy System-on-Chip devices and how > they could be adopted will also be discussed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLeZkUn2vdQ > ? Embedded devices are often now part of a distributed system: my > Pebble watch is linked to my Nexus phone, which is coupled to Google. > > Plan 9 and Inferno are two distributed systems originally developed by > the Bell Labs research centre that produced Unix. They allow a single > large system to be composed from smaller cooperating systems > performing specific tasks. (In other areas they illustrate an > alternative time line that diverged from strict adherence to Unix's > details of the 1970's.) > > Distributed systems infrastructure often focuses on algorithmic > aspects, such as Paxos, and the operating system is largely irrelevant > when it is not merely obstructive. Plan 9 and Inferno provide > structural support for distribution, at the operating system level. > Their defining novelty is the representation of all distributable > resources as hierarchical name spaces, which can be composed in useful > ways, and simplify design, development, testing and integration. This > talk will give a brief summary of both systems, then begin to name > names, including their use in embedded appliances in distributed > systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d1SHOCCDn0 Sevan / Venture37 From steve.mynott at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 22:06:55 2016 From: steve.mynott at gmail.com (Steve Mynott) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 22:06:55 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] So what's happened to FreeBSD 11 RELEASE? Message-ID: Subject says it all! -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Oct 6 22:17:56 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 22:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] So what's happened to FreeBSD 11 RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9459820e-7f7e-4a64-c165-58fe1bd6eaf0@geeklan.co.uk> On 06/10/2016 22:06, Steve Mynott wrote: > Subject says it all! I might be completely wrong here but I think things were all set to go & a candidate was posted on the master site. Whilst the wait for the images to fan was happening prior to a release announcement, the OpenSSL advisories were published. So it's time to roll a new image with relevant fixes in place and start again (with seeding for mirrors). Sevan From mark at blackmans.org Thu Oct 6 22:53:53 2016 From: mark at blackmans.org (Mark Blackman) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 22:53:53 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] So what's happened to FreeBSD 11 RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AAD9CD4-B830-479E-B3C3-552779B103AF@blackmans.org> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 22:06, Steve Mynott wrote: > > Subject says it all! > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2016-October/085844.html From mark at blackmans.org Mon Oct 10 20:18:43 2016 From: mark at blackmans.org (Mark Blackman) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2016 20:18:43 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] So what's happened to FreeBSD 11 RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3AAD9CD4-B830-479E-B3C3-552779B103AF@blackmans.org> References: <3AAD9CD4-B830-479E-B3C3-552779B103AF@blackmans.org> Message-ID: <9F913DB8-0F9E-44E1-B7A7-91619CEFFD09@blackmans.org> > On 6 Oct 2016, at 22:53, Mark Blackman wrote: > > >> On 6 Oct 2016, at 22:06, Steve Mynott wrote: >> >> Subject says it all! >> > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2016-October/085844.html Hoorah, it appears! https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/announce.asc - Mark From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Wed Oct 19 16:08:44 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup Message-ID: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> Hello, Anyone fancy meeting up next Tuesday (25th) at The Old Red Cow? 6:30 onwards? The Old Red Cow 71/72 Long Lane, Barbican, EC1A 9EJ http://theoldredcow.com Sevan From martin at mk-metrics.com Wed Oct 19 17:05:23 2016 From: martin at mk-metrics.com (Martin Kristensen) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:05:23 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> Hello, I'm a new member on the list and I'd certainly take the opportunity to come and day hi. Martin On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:08:44 +0100 Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Hello, > Anyone fancy meeting up next Tuesday (25th) at The Old Red Cow? > > 6:30 onwards? > > > The Old Red Cow > 71/72 Long Lane, Barbican, EC1A 9EJ > http://theoldredcow.com > > > > Sevan > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net -- Kind Regards, Martin Kristensen MK Metrics Limited http://mk-metrics.com +44 (0)74 2525 2181 From steve.mynott at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 21:00:23 2016 From: steve.mynott at gmail.com (Steve Mynott) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 21:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> Message-ID: We (me & Sue) should be able to make it. S On 19 October 2016 at 17:05, Martin Kristensen wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a new member on the list and I'd certainly take the opportunity to > come and day hi. > > Martin > > On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:08:44 +0100 > Sevan Janiyan wrote: > > > Hello, > > Anyone fancy meeting up next Tuesday (25th) at The Old Red Cow? > > > > 6:30 onwards? > > > > > > The Old Red Cow > > 71/72 Long Lane, Barbican, EC1A 9EJ > > http://theoldredcow.com > > > > > > > > Sevan > > _______________________________________________ > > Ukfreebsd mailing list > > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net > > > > -- > Kind Regards, > > Martin Kristensen > MK Metrics Limited > http://mk-metrics.com > +44 (0)74 2525 2181 > > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net > -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott From rvrnt at icloud.com Thu Oct 20 08:35:50 2016 From: rvrnt at icloud.com (Vanderdenduur) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 08:35:50 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> Message-ID: <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> Good morning, I'm happy to come as well. I'm new too. Great day, Raf Le 19/10/2016 ? 21:00, Steve Mynott a ?crit : > We (me & Sue) should be able to make it. > > S > > On 19 October 2016 at 17:05, Martin Kristensen > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm a new member on the list and I'd certainly take the opportunity to >> come and day hi. >> >> Martin >> >> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:08:44 +0100 >> Sevan Janiyan wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Anyone fancy meeting up next Tuesday (25th) at The Old Red Cow? >>> >>> 6:30 onwards? >>> >>> >>> The Old Red Cow >>> 71/72 Long Lane, Barbican, EC1A 9EJ >>> http://theoldredcow.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Sevan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ukfreebsd mailing list >>> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org >>> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd >>> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk >>> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net >> >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> >> Martin Kristensen >> MK Metrics Limited >> http://mk-metrics.com >> +44 (0)74 2525 2181 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ukfreebsd mailing list >> Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org >> http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd >> UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk >> Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net >> > -- Sent from my Superb MacBook Pro GT Twin-turbo Envoy? avec mon Super MacBook Pro GT Bi-Turbo From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Thu Oct 20 20:03:17 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:03:17 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> On 20/10/2016 08:35, Vanderdenduur wrote: > Good morning, > > I'm happy to come as well. I'm new too. > > Great day, Raff, Martin, the more, the merrier :) Sevan From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Tue Oct 25 15:05:46 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 15:05:46 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <20161025145426.345c8b62@omega.mk-metrics.com> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> <20161025145426.345c8b62@omega.mk-metrics.com> Message-ID: Hello, On 25/10/2016 14:54, Martin Kristensen wrote: > Looking forward to seeing you all tonight. > > I'll be the lone guy in a blue sweater and tweed coat, if you spot me > please say hi, since I have no idea who to look for. See you there, I'll have a red & black FreeBSD Foundation hat on. Sevan From steve.mynott at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 13:23:26 2016 From: steve.mynott at gmail.com (Steve Mynott) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:23:26 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: Unfortunately we can't make the meeting! But we look forward to reading the writeup! S On 20 October 2016 at 20:03, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > > > On 20/10/2016 08:35, Vanderdenduur wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > I'm happy to come as well. I'm new too. > > > > Great day, > > Raff, Martin, > the more, the merrier :) > > Sevan > > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net > -- 4096R/EA75174B Steve Mynott From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Tue Oct 25 18:46:11 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:46:11 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> <20161025145426.345c8b62@omega.mk-metrics.com> Message-ID: <4E0F569A-948C-4615-AA01-D63FF465A235@geeklan.co.uk> We're upstairs at the table in the corner. Sevan From rvrnt at icloud.com Tue Oct 25 15:10:09 2016 From: rvrnt at icloud.com (Vanderdenduur) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 15:10:09 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <008a6303-ee1f-a817-1b16-bf5ed005b4a9@icloud.com> Hello BSD guys, just in case I would not recognise you, I'll wear an easily noticeable brown jacket as well as a brown trouser; I'm tall with very short hair. Great end of day, Raf Le 20/10/2016 ? 20:03, Sevan Janiyan a ?crit : > On 20/10/2016 08:35, Vanderdenduur wrote: >> Good morning, >> >> I'm happy to come as well. I'm new too. >> >> Great day, > Raff, Martin, > the more, the merrier :) > > Sevan > > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net From venture37 at geeklan.co.uk Wed Oct 26 18:10:09 2016 From: venture37 at geeklan.co.uk (Sevan Janiyan) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:10:09 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from yesterdays meeting Message-ID: LSB http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/lsb.shtml Haskell Lens https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Lens Using Lisp to test ASLR behaviour https://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2016-04-2016-06.html#ASLR-Interim-State CPU architecture targetted at certain languages in general just trough mass usage? AT&T Hobbit CPU (specifically targetted at running C codebase) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Hobbit Paying for an AT&T KSH license FreeBSD's usage of tcsh "TCSH is a wonderful shell for a user" TrueOS Conscience & DARPA / Government contracts DARPA pulling OpenBSD funding http://www.computerworld.com/article/2580728/security0/darpa-pulls-funding-for-openbsd--leader-says.html OpenBSD for Power Stations Evaluating the BSDs to find the one that suits your needs Phishing training in the workplace Raising awareness of security issues in the workplace Trying to get the security team to run the dirtycow exploit instead, as a test Hypervisor.framework keeping 3rd party virtualisation software extensions out of XNU xhyve / hyperkit "First pass at reducing the diff between bhyve and hyperkit" https://github.com/docker/hyperkit/pull/73 Docker - A consistent means of maintaining a level of mediocrity? https://www.qwant.com search engine boasting security, privacy and no tracking. Trustedbird https://adullact.net/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/milimail/index.php/Documentation The number of cameras in and around Liverpool Street station (look up & count) Progress on moving away from CBC mode for full disk encryption on NetBSD Attack possibilites on a disk using CBC mode for full disk encryption Haskell vs Lisp/Smalltalk/C/C++/Lua Giving a talk at a Haskell meetup where halfway through you admit giving up on Haskell & doing it in Go Enlightenment & EFL vs QT "24 hours on, my i7 Macbook Air was still compiling QT4" Speeding up building times by killing features & programs eg switching off Java support in GCC 4x & 5 shaved many days off (failing) build times on Darwin/PowerPC using pkgsrc FreeBSD on the desktop FreeBSD on the Dell XPS 13 works great Intel Ultrabooks - MacBook Air/ThinkPad X1/XPS 13 Using privoxy to filter trackers "I'm not a fan of Lua in Ring 0" Mill architecture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_architecture Social responsibilty to educate the newcomers on the evil deeds of Microsoft in the past, whilst avoiding coming across as the old person ranting. Microsoft burying Be Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Inc. Jean-Louis Gass?e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass?e The Cambridge FreeBSD posse Pharo http://pharo.org Leveraging the 5% reserved space for root on a filesystem to continue logging Run BSD http://runbsd.eu Shipping software without logging enabled to reduce the unnecessary collection of data by default eg web servers such as apache Moving from avoiding being tracked digitally to real life https://cvdazzle.com Trying to be productive on machine with an ancient release of centos without root access - use pkgsrc in unprivileged mode? The time line for SMP support in the BSDs From rvrnt at icloud.com Thu Oct 27 16:57:33 2016 From: rvrnt at icloud.com (Vanderdenduur) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:57:33 +0100 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] Notes from yesterdays meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, On 26/10/2016 ? 18:10, Sevan Janiyan wrote: > Using privoxy to filter trackers In connexion with Privoxy, I wanted to be a little more accurate. Please, visit their web page and where I humbly contribute to . PRXBX forum seems to be a good resource to start with Privoxy. I?m known as /Faxopita/ in the field Privoxy/ProxHTTPSProxy. Privoxy, a local web-filtering proxy, is a superb tool to filter everything?including ads and trackers?modify web pages on the fly before they actually reach your web browser and block untrusted domain names. Natively, Privoxy can filter URLs based on either the host name?including HTTPS?or the path-side of the URL?excluding HTTPS. The pattern matching syntax is different for the host and path parts of the URL . The host part uses a simple globbing type matching technique, while the path part uses more flexible ?Regular Expressions? (POSIX 1003.2). However, if you want extended REGEX for hosts, you can compile with the option |--enable-extended-host-patterns|, which is a ?switch? to enable PCRE filtering for hostnames. Visit this blacklist page as well. The beauty is that blocking unwanted domains with Privoxy is seriously more flexible than resorting to a /hosts/ file. With metacharacters, you can really compress your block list versus hosts files. Also, If you want to block |www.ugly_domain.tld| and |ugly_domain.tld|, just input |.ugly_domain.tld| in your Privoxy-friendly block list. So, no need to double your entries because of the additional |www.| Since Privoxy cannot filter the path side of encrypted requests?Privoxy is neither a MITM (nor caching web) proxy?you must enhance it with an ?add-on?, such as ProxHTTPSProxy (written in Python) to fix this undesirable outcome. Drawback: security-wise, one must be careful and ?trust? our machine/network? Indeed, using that kind of add-on will enable clear text queries made locally between your browser and ProxHTTPSProxy! You can exclude certain domains from being viewed by the add-on, such as banks, e-commercers, etc. if you prefer. ProxHTTPSProxy is great for personal use. You can triple check the source code as well if you?re unsure. After 15 months of use, I must say it works great and I had no security issues so far. Visit the PRXBX forum regularly for regular updates. RSS feed #1 , RSS feed #2 . Have a great Friday! Raf ? From martin at mk-metrics.com Tue Oct 25 18:54:29 2016 From: martin at mk-metrics.com (Martin Kristensen) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 17:54:29 -0000 Subject: [Ukfreebsd] October London *BSD meetup In-Reply-To: <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> References: <48672f97-517c-6196-17df-22afbd14da46@geeklan.co.uk> <20161019170523.68ddff84@omega.mk-metrics.com> <92078ca3-e29a-c65f-9998-5dae5d275571@icloud.com> <1c95388c-7d20-db18-b306-2cfe5f2bb572@geeklan.co.uk> Message-ID: <20161025145426.345c8b62@omega.mk-metrics.com> Looking forward to seeing you all tonight. I'll be the lone guy in a blue sweater and tweed coat, if you spot me please say hi, since I have no idea who to look for. Cheers, Martin On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:03:17 +0100 Sevan Janiyan wrote: > On 20/10/2016 08:35, Vanderdenduur wrote: > > Good morning, > > > > I'm happy to come as well. I'm new too. > > > > Great day, > > Raff, Martin, > the more, the merrier :) > > Sevan > > _______________________________________________ > Ukfreebsd mailing list > Ukfreebsd at uk.freebsd.org > http://mailman.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ukfreebsd > UK BSD Groups http://www.bsdgroups.org.uk > Hosted by EXOnetric http://www.exonetric.net -- Kind Regards, Martin Kristensen MK Metrics Limited http://mk-metrics.com +44 (0)74 2525 2181