email etiquette

Simon Kershaw simon at kershaw.org.uk
Tue Mar 7 15:47:50 GMT 2006


Please please can folks trim their email to remove from it irrelevant 
parts of the preceding message. There really is no need to send the 
entire email thread with every post. Readers can be assumed to have 
received and read earlier messages.

In addition, please send messages to the list as plain text. And avoid 
like the plague using MS Word as your mail editor!

Those of us who receive the list in digest form have received a whole 
series of digests, rather than the usual one a day, because so much 
extraneous and unreadable material has been included.

I apologise for doing the same thing myself, but this is done to show 
non-digest users how their material arrives here. Note especially the 
treatment of MIME parts. Just keep scrolling down, down, down, on and on 
and on.

simon

-- 
Simon Kershaw
simon at kershaw.org.uk
St Ives, Cambridgeshire

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>    1. RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4 (CB)
>    2. RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4 (Edmonds, Alan)
>    3. RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4 (CB)
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> Message: 1
> From: "CB" <charles-brewster at ntlworld.com>
> To: "'Edmonds, Alan'" <Alan.Edmonds at t-mobile.net>
> Cc: <freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org>
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:27:50 -0000
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> YES!! - that works - you're a star Alan.
> 
>  
> 
> I'll try a few other "From " addresses and see what it will digest.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
> Charles
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Alan
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:21
> To: CB
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
>  
> 
> You can use the '-f from_address' command line parameter when sending the
> mail......
> 
>  
> 
> sendmail -f john.doe at real_domain.com charles-brewster at ntlworld.com 
> 
>  
> 
> etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Alan 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>YES!! &#8211; that works &#8211; =
> you&#8217;re
> a star Alan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> 
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> freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org =
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] <b><span
> style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:City =
> w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
>  w:st=3D"on">Edmonds</st1:place></st1:City>, Alan<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 March 2006 =
> 15:21<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CB<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
> w:st=3D"on">freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org</st1:PersonName><br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: More fun and =
> games
> with sendmail/m4</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can use the '-f from_address' =
> command
> line parameter when sending the mail......</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>sendmail -f <a
> href=3D"mailto:john.doe at real_domain.com">john.doe at real_domain.com</a> <a
> href=3D"mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com">charles-brewster at ntlworld.c=
> om</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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> Message: 2
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:32:00 -0000
> From: "Edmonds, Alan" <Alan.Edmonds at t-mobile.net>
> To: "CB" <charles-brewster at ntlworld.com>
> Cc: <freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org>
> 
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> You will get a warning in your mail log about untrusted user if the user =
> sending the email isn't in the "trusted users" list in sendmail.cf.
> =20
> Glad to help.
> =20
> I also used smail3 when moving from a UUCP based system (smail 2.5) to a =
> network based system...  I liked smail3 at the time. =20
> I dug into sendmail when the company I worked for was using it to =
> transfer mail between several sites.  It used a version of
> sendmail that encrypted the traffic between each site.  I had to make =
> changes and fixes and we only had a binary.....
> It was a challenge to say the least....
> =20
> Alan
> =20
> =20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CB [mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:28
> To: Edmonds, Alan
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
> 
> 
> YES!! - that works - you're a star Alan.
> 
> =20
> 
> I'll try a few other "From " addresses and see what it will digest.
> 
> =20
> 
> Regards
> 
> Charles
> 
> =20
> 
> 
>   _____ =20
> 
> 
> From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org =
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Alan
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:21
> To: CB
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
> =20
> 
> You can use the '-f from_address' command line parameter when sending =
> the mail......
> 
> =20
> 
> sendmail -f john.doe at real_domain.com charles-brewster at ntlworld.com=20
> 
> =20
> 
> etc.
> 
> =20
> 
> Alan=20
> 
> =20
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> will get a warning in your mail log about untrusted user&nbsp;if the =
> user=20
> sending the email isn't in the "trusted users" list in=20
> sendmail.cf.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> size=3D2>Glad=20
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>I also=20
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> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> size=3D2>I dug=20
> into sendmail when the company I worked for was using it =
> to&nbsp;transfer mail=20
> between several sites.&nbsp; It used a version of</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
> 
> size=3D2>sendmail that encrypted the traffic between each site.&nbsp; I =
> had to=20
> make changes and fixes and we only had a binary.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D180262815-07032006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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> size=3D2>Alan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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> face=3DTahoma=20
>   size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> CB=20
>   [mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 March 2006=20
>   15:28<BR><B>To:</B> Edmonds, Alan<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
>   freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: More fun and games =
> with=20
>   sendmail/m4<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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> &#8211; that works &#8211;=20
>   you&#8217;re a star Alan.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I&#8217;ll =
> try a few other=20
>   &#8220;From &#8220; addresses and see what it will =
> digest.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial">Charles<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <DIV>
>   <DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
> align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
>   face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN lang=3DEN-US =
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
>   <HR tabIndex=3D-1 align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D2>
>   </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN =
> lang=3DEN-US=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
> Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
>   face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">=20
>   freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org =
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org]=20
>   <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:City =
> 
>   w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Edmonds</st1:place></st1:City>,=20
>   Alan<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 07 March =
> 2006=20
>   15:21<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
> CB<BR><B><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName=20
>   w:st=3D"on">freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: More fun and games =
> with=20
>   sendmail/m4</SPAN></FONT><SPAN =
> lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You can use =
> the '-f=20
>   from_address' command line parameter when sending the=20
>   mail......</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
>   <DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
>   style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sendmail -f =
> <A=20
>   href=3D"mailto:john.doe at real_domain.com">john.doe at real_domain.com</A> =
> <A=20
>   =
> href=3D"mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com">charles-brewster at ntlworld.c=
> om</A>=20
>   </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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>   <DIV>
>   <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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> Message: 3
> From: "CB" <charles-brewster at ntlworld.com>
> To: "'Edmonds, Alan'" <Alan.Edmonds at t-mobile.net>
> Cc: <freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org>
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:39:40 -0000
> 
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> I don=92t think I have anything in =91trusted users=92 yet =96 haven=92t =
> got that far!
> 
> =20
> 
> I tried just now emailing out to Animesh Singh who responded on this =
> thread
> earlier, with the same =91-f charles-brewster at ntlworld.com=92 in the =
> command
> line,  but I got the mail returned:
> 
> The original message was received at Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:43:09 GMT from
> localhost.edcv [127.0.0.1]
> 
> =20
> 
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <asingh at opensource.com>
> 
>     (reason: 550 relaying mail to opensource.com is not allowed)
> 
> =20
> 
>    ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to
> smtp.ntlworld.com.:
> 
>>>> DATA
> 
> <<< 550 relaying mail to opensource.com is not allowed 550 5.1.1
> <asingh at opensource.com>... User unknown <<< 503 No recipients specified
> 
> =20
> 
> Any ideas why that should now be happening?
> 
> =20
> 
> Many thanks for your wise words
> 
> =20
> 
> Charles B
> 
> =20
> 
> =20
> 
>   _____ =20
> 
> From: Edmonds, Alan [mailto:Alan.Edmonds at t-mobile.net]=20
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:32
> To: CB
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
> =20
> 
> You will get a warning in your mail log about untrusted user if the user
> sending the email isn't in the "trusted users" list in sendmail.cf.
> 
> =20
> 
> Glad to help.
> 
> =20
> 
> I also used smail3 when moving from a UUCP based system (smail 2.5) to a
> network based system...  I liked smail3 at the time. =20
> 
> I dug into sendmail when the company I worked for was using it to =
> transfer
> mail between several sites.  It used a version of
> 
> sendmail that encrypted the traffic between each site.  I had to make
> changes and fixes and we only had a binary.....
> 
> It was a challenge to say the least....
> 
> =20
> 
> Alan
> 
> =20
> 
> =20
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CB [mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:28
> To: Edmonds, Alan
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
> YES!! =96 that works =96 you=92re a star Alan.
> 
> =20
> 
> I=92ll try a few other =93From =93 addresses and see what it will =
> digest.
> 
> =20
> 
> Regards
> 
> Charles
> 
> =20
> 
> 
>   _____ =20
> 
> 
> From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Edmonds, Alan
> Sent: 07 March 2006 15:21
> To: CB
> Cc: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: More fun and games with sendmail/m4
> 
> =20
> 
> You can use the '-f from_address' command line parameter when sending =
> the
> mail......
> 
> =20
> 
> sendmail -f john.doe at real_domain.com charles-brewster at ntlworld.com=20
> 
> =20
> 
> etc.
> 
> =20
> 
> Alan=20
> 
> =20
> 
> =20
> 
> 
> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don&#8217;t think I have anything =
> in &#8216;trusted
> users&#8217; yet &#8211; haven&#8217;t got that =
> far!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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> color=3Dnavy
> face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I tried
> just now emailing out to Animesh Singh who responded on this thread =
> earlier,
> with the same &#8216;-f <a =
> href=3D"mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com">charles-brewster at ntlworld.c=
> om</a>&#8217;
> in the command line, =A0but I got the mail =
> returned:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
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> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The original message was received =
> at Tue,
> 7 Mar 2006 16:43:09 GMT from localhost.edcv =
> [127.0.0.1]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
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> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=A0=A0 ----- The following =
> addresses had
> permanent fatal errors ----- =
> &lt;asingh at opensource.com&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=A0=A0=A0 (reason: 550 relaying =
> mail to
> opensource.com is not allowed)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=A0=A0 ----- Transcript of session =
> follows
> ----- ... while talking to =
> smtp.ntlworld.com.:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
> DATA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
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> color=3Dnavy
> face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&lt;&lt;&lt;
> 550 relaying mail to opensource.com is not allowed 550 5.1.1 =
> &lt;asingh at opensource.com&gt;...
> User unknown &lt;&lt;&lt; 503 No recipients =
> specified<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any ideas why that should now be
> happening?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Many thanks for your wise =
> words<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Charles =
> B<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font =
> size=3D3
> face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>
> 
> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>
> 
> </span></font></div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
> n></font></b><font
> size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
> Edmonds, Alan [mailto:Alan.Edmonds at t-mobile.net] <br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 March 2006 =
> 15:32<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CB<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
> w:st=3D"on">freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org</st1:PersonName><br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: More fun and =
> games with
> sendmail/m4</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You will get a warning in your mail =
> log
> about untrusted user&nbsp;if the user sending the email isn't in the
> &quot;trusted users&quot; list in =
> sendmail.cf.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Glad to =
> help.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I also used smail3 when moving from =
> a UUCP
> based system (smail 2.5)&nbsp;to a network based system...&nbsp; I liked =
> smail3
> at the time.&nbsp; </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I dug into sendmail when the =
> company I
> worked for was using it to&nbsp;transfer mail between several =
> sites.&nbsp; It
> used a version of</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>sendmail that encrypted the traffic
> between each site.&nbsp; I had to make changes and fixes and we only had =
> a
> binary.....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It was a challenge to say the =
> least....</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Alan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <blockquote =
> style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DTahoma><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
> Message-----<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> CB =
> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
> w:st=3D"on">charles-brewster at ntlworld.com</st1:PersonName>]<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 March 2006 =
> 15:28<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Edmonds, Alan<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
> w:st=3D"on">freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org</st1:PersonName><br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: More fun and =
> games
> with sendmail/m4</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>YES!! &#8211; that works &#8211;
> you&#8217;re a star Alan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;ll try a few other =
> &#8220;From
> &#8220; addresses and see what it will =
> digest.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
> 
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Charles<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>=
> 
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font =
> size=3D3
> face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>
> 
> <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>
> 
> </span></font></div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
> n></font></b><font
> size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
> freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org =
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] <b><span
> style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:place =
> w:st=3D"on"><st1:City
>  w:st=3D"on">Edmonds</st1:City></st1:place>, Alan<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 07 March 2006 =
> 15:21<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CB<br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
> w:st=3D"on">freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org</st1:PersonName><br>
> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: More fun and =
> games
> with sendmail/m4</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can use the '-f from_address' =
> command
> line parameter when sending the mail......</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>sendmail -f <a
> href=3D"mailto:john.doe at real_domain.com">john.doe at real_domain.com</a> <a
> href=3D"mailto:charles-brewster at ntlworld.com">charles-brewster at ntlworld.c=
> om</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>etc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Alan </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> </div>
> 
> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:
> 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
> 
> <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
> <br>
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