BSD is dying
paul at iconoplex.co.uk
Wed Aug 3 15:23:52 BST 2005
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 12:11:33PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> I guess I have a few comments on the state of BSD in the UK.... it'd
> be a shame not to bore the people here with them!
That's the spirit!
> it has been for the past few years. In fact, I'd say that awareness
> of the OS is greater than it ever has been.
I'm "aware" of torturous dictatorships, it doesn't mean I would seek to
implement one within my office.
There's a lot of talk about 'awareness' but ultimately, when push comes
to shove, nobody outside of a very small clique is prepared to actually
deploy. That's the shame.
> BSD has been sitting in the background, maturing.
Stroking its white cat, muahahaha'ing?
> whole "what do you want out of your release engineering department"
Most organisations genuinely do not want release engineering. The reason
why portupgrade is so successful is because instead of having to track a
gazillion mailing lists, I can do:
# cvsup -g -L1 /root/ports-supfile
# pkg_version -l '<'
... peruse list to see what might break...
# portupgrade -a
If it wasn't for the fact I had to go over a version number with
buildworld, I'd still be doing binary updates as well.
I look after a lot of servers. I write a lot of code. I write reports,
have meetings to go to, try and help run seminars and events, and
occasionally I like to try and have a normal life.
I don't want release engineering tasks.
I want to type in 3 commands.
> Given the choice, the lawyers preferred to just avoid the whole GPL
Well, that doesn't surprise me but I would be amazed if that was what
got FreeBSD mindshare a few years from now. We need to change culturally
and technically, IMHO.
> So I guess what I'm saying is that I believe BSD, and FreeBSD
> specifically is poised to take market share away from linux. Not
Poised is one thing. Doing it is quite another.
I think in the desktop space, Apple is not only poised to take away
market share from BSD and Linux, but is actually doing it.
> We've always been lacking the enthusiasm and drive of the linux
> folks, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We're not as
I think it not so much enthusiasm and drive, I think it is that we have
cynical pessimism and argumentative tendancies in abundance.
Look at -jobs recently, or the whole NetBSD/OpenBSD camp.
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