Should I update/updgrade/stay?

Grant orbman at thingysrealm.myftp.org
Tue Jun 1 21:00:05 BST 2004


Kevin O'Connor wrote:

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>>From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org [mailto:freebsd-users-
>>admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Grant
>>Sent: 01 June 2004 20:41
>>To: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: Should I update/updgrade/stay?
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>>Kevin O'Connor wrote:
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org [mailto:freebsd-users-
>>>>admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Grant
>>>>Sent: 01 June 2004 10:53
>>>>To: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
>>>>Subject: Re: Should I update/updgrade/stay?
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>>>>Kevin O'Connor wrote:
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>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org [mailto:freebsd-users-
>>>>>>admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman
>>>>>>Sent: 31 May 2004 21:17
>>>>>>To: Kevin O'Connor
>>>>>>Cc: 'Grant'; freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Should I update/updgrade/stay?
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>>>>>>On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 07:51:37PM +0100, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
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>>>>>>>Read this article on portupgrade to find out how to use it after
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>>>>>>>have upgraded your ports. NB it has a problem upgrading it's self
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>>>>>>>make sure you have the up to date version installed, if not
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>>>deinstall
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>>>>>>>and install the lastest version
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>>>>>>>http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/4111
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>>>>>>Yes -- an excellent article, well worth reading.
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>>>>>>I take issue with saying that portupgrade has problems upgrading
>>>>>>itself though.  That simply isn't the case in my experience.
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>>>>>>to portupgrade have always gone in very smoothly -- there was one
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>>>>>>the other day.
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>>>>>>Portupgrade did have a real problem a few months ago handling the
>>>>>>upgrade of ruby-1.6 to ruby-1.8 (ruby is the language portupgrade
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>>>>>>20040226 datestamp).  But that's irrelevant if this is the first
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>>>>>>of the ports tree.
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>>>>>>	Cheers,
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>>>>>>	Matthew
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>>>>>I speak only as I've found it, every time portupgrade has tried to
>>>>>upgrade it's self I've encountered a failure both with 4.9 and 5.21.
>>>>>I've never had a problem with upgrading all the other ports I use.
>>>>>Perhaps I need to review my initial procedures for installing cvsup
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>>>>>portupgrade. I'll investigate further on my next clean build
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Kevin
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>>>>hey all!
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>>>>update...
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>>>>I got ports to update... and i told it to upgrade what is
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>>>>*most* of it upgraded without any problems, but i have noticed a
>>>>problem, once i upgraded the ports "portupgrade" disappeared and
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>>>>work, so i went and did a make install again, but it told me it was
>>>>allready installed, which it was before the upgrade.
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>>>>so it told me to do a make deinstall or a make reinstall, the
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>>>>didnt work, so i had to deinstall then make install, is this normal
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>>>>a port update/upgrade? i also had to do it for expat for apache to
>>>>upgrade, is there a way i can make it more automated?
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>>>>but most of the packages upgraded perfect, the command i used was
>>>>"portupgrade -arR" which was meant to satisfy the dependancys? or
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>>>>got the wrong option?
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>>>>Thank again.
>>>>Grant.
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>>>Looks like you hit the same problem I keep finding but the uninstall
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>>>clean install fixes it for future use. Did you install portupgrade
>>>before doing the cvsup to update the ports?
>>>Regards
>>>Kevin
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>>hey!
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>>Yea i think i installed portupgrade before the cvsup, then after a
>>portupgrade i then had to deinstall and then install it again...
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>>oh also, over the past few days i have installed quite a bit from the
>>ports collection... now i keep forgetting to do a "make clean" after
>>everything to clean up.... could i just cd to /usr/ports and run a make
>>clean from there? that way it will just clean everything out that i
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>>used? or is there a better way of doing the clean :)
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>>Thanks
>>Grant.
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>That will indeed perform a clean on all ports, it can take a while
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>Regards
>Kevin
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Cheers for that, i will run one of them over night...

Just got to update the whole system so its 4.10 and not 4.9 :-)

Thanks to all thats helped!
Grant.





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