Freebsd-users digest, Vol 1 #1364 - 3 msgs
Wed Jun 11 15:29:19 BST 2003
I can ping the gateway (my BSD box) anytime what I can't do is ping the
isp's servers 188.8.131.52 and 184.108.40.206 or their gateway
172.26.131.157, from my windows box 192.168.1.100. My internal network is
fine I just can't get over the ppp link. Also if I ping the 212.67.96 ip's,
from BSD, then I get wierd reply, but if I ping 172.26.131.157 I get the
standard full reply. My BSD is set up for NFS, to give me ftp facilities and
inetd. I have only set options in the kernel config of IPFIREWALL, IPDIVERT,
IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100, and recompiled, rebooted. Then /sbin/ipfw -f
flush, then ppp onetel
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> 1. Re: BSD Laptops (Frank Shute)
> 2. Internet connection sharing (Daniel Finnimore)
> 3. Re: Internet connection sharing (Andrew Hodgson)
> Message: 1
> From: "Frank Shute" <frank at esperance-linux.co.uk>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:34:25 +0100
> To: Paul Robinson <paul at iconoplex.co.uk>
> Cc: FreeBSD UK <freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org>
> Subject: Re: BSD Laptops
> Reply-To: Frank Shute <frank at esperance-linux.co.uk>
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 12:35:01PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 02:04:46PM +0100, MAWDSLEY, Adrian wrote:
> > > So basically i'm wanting suggestions, horror stories and some good
> > > Before i spend my wad
> > Over two years ago now, I bought my current laptop, an IBM Thinkpad 240
> > e-bay for about 400 quid. It's a sub-notebook really without a CD-drive,
> > external floppy, etc. and most people's first comments are "isn't it
> > even though it's only a little smaller than an A4 pad.
> I've got one of these too & am really happy with it. It's only got an
> 800x600 screen, so if you're the sort of person who goes in for Gnome
> or KDE I would probably get something bigger.
> > The only problems I've had with it is the battery sucks, the
> > soundcard is a pain to get working (but possible with a custom
> > kernel) and the Winmodem is something that didn't work back then,
> > and I haven't tried since.
> Yes, the battery does suck & if I was in the market again I'd
> seriously have a look at the 12" iBook as I gather their processors
> use a lot less juice & it seems to be the nearest thing to a Thinkpad
> 240 now on the market (I want a laptop that's portable & doesn't weigh a
> First I'd have to see what my chances were of running NetBSD on it
> were though, as I'd want to run all the software I presently do & I
> don't particularly want to muck around with OS X or Linux.
> The one button mouse would be a bit of a blow but I guess you could
> plug a proper mouse into it. You could probably pick one up on eBay
> with a bit of luck; new I think they'd stretch your budget.
> If I was going to mainly use the laptop at home/work then I'd get one with
> a big screen but probably make it an x86 based one & probably an IBM
> again (they seem more solidly built then the average laptop).
> A big screen on the road, then I'd look at the big iBook with the
> `cinerama' type screen, again because of the battery life.
> BTW Paul, with regards your 240. I got an external CD drive from
> www.archos.com which works well & I should think their CD-RW/DVDs
> probably do too (they're advertised as working with Linux last time I
> looked). Anyway, I'd recommend that firm for that sort of external
> laptop stuff.
> The Lucent Winmodem on the 240 works with:
> You just have to:
> set device /dev/cua10
> in ppp.conf as far as I remember. There is a site on the 'net which
> tells you which Lucent chipsets it works with, so it's worth checking
> there if you buy a laptop with a Lucent winmodem.
> The power management also works but I think it required a kernel
> The sound I did have working with Linux but since I haven't got any
> use for it ATM I haven't bothered trying to get it to work yet. (Sound
> on FreeBSD still remains a dusty corner for me :)
> > I'm looking at buying a new laptop in the next 6 months, and my likely
> > candidates are going to be thinkpads again. I'm looking at the X-Series
> > the moment, but it's out of your budget and doesn't have a built-in CD
> > DVD drive. You might find one cheap through the channels out there, and
> > perhaps a refurb if you're lucky.
> > In my experience (I've never owned my own desktop PC, only ever
> > the bigger names are better supported, although korean/taiwanese
> > can be sorted out once you've got the FCC ID and the *real* manufacturer
> > the machine.
> > There is loads of other sutff to consider about laptops (I've never
> > own desktop PC since I had an Amstrad 1512) but none of them are BSD
> > related. If you've never bought/owned one before, shout up and I'll
> > a checklist.
> I think there's a linux-laptop howto which gives good general advice
> about choosing a laptop.
> The best advice though is to decide whether you are going to use it
> mainly at a desk plugged in? Are you mainly a terminal-type of person
> (hence don't need a fancy big & expensive screen & latest whiz-bang
> space-heater processor)?
> And IMO, avoid laptops with built in CDs, modems, network cards etc.
> They may not work with BSD & if they go wrong they could be
> difficult/expensive to fix, although they seem to be the most
> pervasive types on the market. I'm running 4.6-RELEASE on my laptop &
> the pcmcia stuff seems to work fine.
> It's also worth a trip to Tottenham Court Road if you're near there.
> They do a lot of new laptops there that are no longer being sold by
> the manufacturers ie. surplus EOL stock. So you can get what would
> have been the latest & greatest 6 months ago at close to secondhand
> My laptop is 300MHz, 128Mb, 6GB HD & it does me just fine still & when
> I'm not on the road I just plug it in and rsync/scp stuff across from
> my desktop as a lazy man's backup.
> You could probably get a 1GHz, 256Mb, 20GB system at TCR for 5 or 6
> hundred </guess>. Let us know what you buy.
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> Droid: Actually, Microsoft does produce a quality product.
> Cynic: True, but you can't run a server or a decent desktop with just
> an intellimouse...
> - seen on Slashdot
> Message: 2
> Reply-To: "Daniel Finnimore" <dan at compsupport.co.uk>
> From: "Daniel Finnimore" <dan at compsupport.co.uk>
> To: <freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org>
> Subject: Internet connection sharing
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:33:22 +0100
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> I have my FreeBSD box now connected to Ontel.co.uk using PPP over a 56K =
> modem. This box has a static ip of 192.168.1.3 and the gateway is set to =
> same. I want to route my windows pc thru this Freebsd connection but =
> can't. When the internet connection is up I can ping the 192.168.1.3 but =
> not the isp (from windows). I have flushed the firewall but still no =
> joy. For now all I want is a connection, I will wall it all up when I =
> can see the outside world.
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> gateway is set to same. I want to route my windows pc thru this Freebsd=20
> connection but can't. When the internet connection is up I can ping the=20
> 192.168.1.3 but not the isp (from windows). I have flushed the firewall =
> still no joy. For now all I want is a connection, I will wall it all up =
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:51:40 +0100
> From: Andrew Hodgson <andrewh at jhcs.co.uk>
> To: freebsd-users at uk.freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Internet connection sharing
> > Daniel Finnimore wrote:
> > I have my FreeBSD box now connected to Ontel.co.uk using PPP over a
> > 56K modem. This box has a static ip of 192.168.1.3 and the gateway is
> > set to same. I want to route my windows pc thru this Freebsd
> > connection but can't. When the internet connection is up I can ping
> > the 192.168.1.3 but not the isp (from windows). I have flushed the
> > firewall but still no joy. For now all I want is a connection, I will
> > wall it all up when I can see the outside world.
> It seems odd that you can only ping the gateway when PPP is working,
> they should see each other all the time. Are you connecting them
> directly via ethernet? It also seems slightly odd that your ISP would
> approve of 192.168.1.3 as a static IP...are you not getting an address
> via DHCP?
> Also, are you using ipfw/natd or ipfilter/ipnat?
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