spam from the list

Lou Kamenov phayze at secureroot.org.uk
Wed Jun 4 12:43:23 BST 2003


In some email I received from Dimitrios <sehh at altered.com> on Wed, 4 Jun 2003 12:28:10
+0100, wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 11:58:23 +0100 Lou Kamenov <phayze at secureroot.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > SPAM is not a generic for everyone..
> > so spam for you dont have to be spam for your neighbour and so on..
> > the best thing to personalize it for yourself.
> > it's quite possible that  the bunch of collected spam by someone might not to the same
> > job for you.
> 
> I am not sure what you mean, since spam is spam. If you want to read spam, then you
> are probably not running spamassassin or equivalent software.

What I mean is:  if you dont like porn spam, someone else _does_ actually like it, and
that means that you neglected the fact that these emails actually are being blocked, here
i'm talking about being a mailserver admin and use spamassassin to stop the spam..
 
In general spam is spam but spam is actually a word which we adopt when we actually mean 
and have our very own  idea of spam.

the best way to granularly remove spam is at client level, even then it requires extreme
amount of learning..
and spam assassin doesn't have what it takes to do this the 100% way, the one and only 
real spam fighter I saw was an AI system which you install in your enterprise and it
actually collaborates with the clients and learns from the behaviour of their (joe,bob,
roger). which included incredible amount of calculation in NN and GAs :) it's full with
false positives out in the Internet:)

in any event sa-learn and sa in general wont be much effective without vopul's razor :)

I like it very much and I share Paul Robinson opinion  on this topic 100% :)


cheers




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