Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute
Stacey Roberts
stacey at vickiandstacey.com
Tue Jul 8 00:08:51 BST 2003
Hi Edmund,
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 23:01, Edmund Craske wrote:
> Argh! I'm always the last to put it down to the dreaded i word, but...
> INCOMPETENCE!
>
Err.., okay :-)
> That is all.
> Ed
>
Found out that MS Windows actually uses ICMP for traceroute, whereas
FreeBSD (et al) go with UDP. I've also turned off ipfw on one of the
FBSD boxes and I still can't even traceroute to the router!
So at the end.., I've resigned myself to emailing Zen on how they're
handling UDP ports 33434-33500 within their fabric.
I can't see anything else I can do here with respect to setting up the
FBSD boxes., if even with ipfw set to allow by default, I still can't
even traceroute the (Zen-purchased) router.
Regards,
Stacey
> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
> Sent: 07 July 2003 22:45
> To: jfm at blueyonder.co.uk
> Cc: freebsduk; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute
>
>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 21:20, John Murphy wrote:
> > Stacey Roberts <stacey at vickiandstacey.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Well., that's the story they're feeding me now. Something to do with
> > >the fact that its a new range??????
> >
> > Hmm. Looking at the headers of your post you seem to have an address
> > in the previously bogus 82/8 range. These were only made available to
>
> > RIPE circa November 2002 and some operators have been slow to update
> > their ACLs. My ISP has acquired a whole range of these and forced one
>
> > on me, so I know what problems they can cause.
> >
> > >Really pisses me off this.., I'm quite fond of the FreeBSDforums
> > >site, one of the best *bsd-related forum site I've come across..,
> > >too.
> >
> > I can't get to http://www.freebsdforums.org/ either!
> >
>
> Sorry but.., AT LAST!!!!!! I'm not going crazy.., and it might be that
> there's some sanity to what Zen is telling me?
>
> > The temporary fix for me is to use the ISP's web-cache :(
> >
>
> No such option for me :-(
>
> > Here's a traceroute from here (in case it helps):
> >
> > traceroute to vail.edry.com (207.174.189.161), 64 hops max, 44 byte
> > packets 1 10.48.128.1 (10.48.128.1) 11.499 ms 14.670 ms 9.454 ms
>
> > 2 gsr01-tf.blueyonder.co.uk (62.31.176.161) 28.402 ms 9.319 ms
> > 9.155 ms 3 172.18.4.41 (172.18.4.41) 8.951 ms 18.224 ms 12.685 ms
>
> > 4 kno-rab-wol-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.49) 23.042 ms 24.131 ms
>
> > 40.047 ms 5 tele2-kno-rab-pos.telewest.net (194.117.136.70) 18.752
> > ms 37.390 ms 28.197 ms 6 zcr1-so-5-0-0.Londonlnt.cw.net
> > (166.63.222.37) 50.513 ms 19.658 ms 19.770 ms 7
> > dcr2-loopback.Chicago.cw.net (208.172.2.100) 119.590 ms 111.810 ms
> > 116.965 ms 8 agr4-so-6-0-0.Chicago.cw.net (208.175.10.158) 128.898
> > ms 138.911 ms 113.668 ms 9 acr2.Denver.cw.net (208.172.162.62)
> > 152.239 ms 162.933 ms 145.562 ms 10 internap.Denver.cw.net
> > (208.172.161.178) 155.267 ms 155.384 ms 160.362 ms 11
> > border10.ge3-0-bbnet2.den.pnap.net (216.52.40.79) 155.735 ms 160.266
>
> > ms 158.363 ms 12 coop-2.border10.den.pnap.net (216.52.42.118)
> > 133.003 ms 134.785 ms 134.697 ms 13 199.45.130.33 (199.45.130.33)
> > 138.747 ms 147.327 ms 135.144 ms 14 *
> > border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 139.951
> > ms !X * 15 border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net
> > (207.174.144.178) 136.281 ms !X * * 16
> > border-to-141-netrack.boulder.co.coop.net (207.174.144.178) 159.470
> > ms !X * 137.951 ms !X
>
> Note here that you don't appear to actually *get* to freebsdforums' IP:
> >From nslookup for freebsdforums.org :
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: freebsdforums.org
> Address: 207.174.189.161
>
> I'm trying to force Zen to increase their efforts in doing whatever
> they're able to do for me, but its a nightmare getting through to tech
> support to even begin that process..,
>
> For now, I'm trying to google around for what I might need to do in
> order that I can get traceroute to work for my *nix boxes here..,
>
> Thanks again for that..,
>
> Regards,
>
> Stacey
--
Stacey Roberts
B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
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