Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute

Edmund Craske edmund at m00is.net
Mon Jul 7 20:30:34 BST 2003


What's your trace to www.freebsdforums.org from a Windows machine?
I don't see why there would be a problem for a particular IP range on
Zen, but not for others, being that all of Zen's ADSL customers connect
to the same PoP and use the same transit.

I wouldn't know how the Vigor 2600 works with regard to packet filtering
by default, but something tells me it's blocking something somewhere....
Do you still have your old router? Perhaps try it with that and see if
it makes any difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org
[mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
Sent: 07 July 2003 20:12
To: Edmund Craske
Cc: FreeBSD Users UK Mailing List
Subject: RE: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute


Hello,
     Thanks for taking the time..,

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:05, Edmund Craske wrote:
> I use Zen and www.freebsdforums.org works absolutely fine.

Shucks :-(=20
I know that *some* folks on Zen can get to the site, but I'm wondering
if its to do with the network range I've been assigned here. That's
certainly what Zen tech support have told me just now.

> As for the traceroutes, I believe Windows and FreeBSD use different=20
> kinds of echo requests, though I could be talking out of my arse on=20
> that one :} Sounds like a router problem, have you changed it along=20
> with the ISP?
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Yep.., When with PIPEX, I was using the SMC ADSL Barriccade which worked
for near on two years flawlessly. Now I've got this Draytek Vigor 2600
router that Zen recommended to me.

The thing is, its set up with its default, basic setting for simple
connectivity. That said, why would the Win2K & XP boxes work fine, but
not one single *nix box?

> Ed
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> PS: try doing the same/similar tests on the router machine (assuming=20
> it's a PC and not hardware) and/or configuring a machine with a static

> public IP and trying it on that.
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See above.

Thanks again..,

Regards,

Stacey

> -----Original Message-----
> From: freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org
> [mailto:freebsd-users-admin at uk.freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stacey=20
> Roberts
> Sent: 07 July 2003 19:53
> To: freebsduk; FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Changed ISP now can't get to websites / traceroute
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>=20
> Hello,
>      Sorry for brining this to the list, but I've been grappling on my

> own with this for the last two weeks now.
>=20
> I had an ADSL connection at one point, but have moved home. With this,

> I had to change ISP's in order to get ADSL where I now live. The thing

> is, now that I've got this new ISP (Zen - 8 static IP's), I find that=20
> there are sites that I am not able to get (browse) to, most concerning

> is www.freebsdforums.org. Ever since I've got this new ADSL account,=20
> not for hell nor high-water can I hit that site, using any browser,=20
> using any OS (FreeBSD, RH =A3inux or MS Win2K Pro / XP) at home.
>=20
> In addition to this, I am also unable to run traceroute from any=20
> FreeBSD machine to *any* external site via IP address, nor WWW=20
> address, even though I can from the MS Win machines.
>=20
> With my previous ADSL provider (PIPEX) traceroute worked fine from=20
> *all* machines, regardless of OS, hence my feeling it can't be=20
> anything to do with ipfw running on my *nix boxes.., but then again..,
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> So here are my questions:
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> 1] Does any here use Zen ADSL successfully and is able to connect to=20
> www.freeBSDforums.org?
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> 2] Does anyone know of any reason why traceroute might fail on=20
> FreeBSD, but work on Win2K Pro?
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> Some info..,
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> I can ping www.freebsd.org:
> $ ping www.freebsd.org
> PING www.freebsd.org (216.136.204.117): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 216.136.204.117: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D45 time=3D191.092 ms =
64=20
> bytes from 216.136.204.117: icmp_seq=3D1 ttl=3D45 time=3D173.511 ms 64 =
bytes

> from 216.136.204.117: icmp_seq=3D2 ttl=3D45 time=3D193.024 ms 64 bytes =
from
> 216.136.204.117: icmp_seq=3D3 ttl=3D45 time=3D181.710 ms ^C
> --- www.freebsd.org ping statistics ---
> 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip=20
> min/avg/max/stddev =3D 173.511/184.834/193.024/7.814 ms $
>=20
> But traceroute fails:
> $ traceroute www.freebsd.org
> traceroute to www.freebsd.org (216.136.204.117), 64 hops max, 44 byte=20
> packets  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  1.448 ms  0.431 ms  0.304 ms  2
> * * *  3  * * *  4  * * *  5  * * *  6  * * *  7  * * *  8  * * *  9 =20
> *
> * * 10  * * * 11  * * * 12  * * * 13  * * * 14  * * * 15  * * * 16  *
*
> * 17  * * * 18  * * * 19  * * * 20  * * * 21  * * * 22  * * * 23  * *
*
> 24  * * * 25  * * * 26  * * * 27  * * * 28  * * * 29  * * * 30  * * *
31
> * * * 32  * * * 33  * * * ^C $
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> On Win2K Pro on the other hand.., all success:
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> First ping test:
> C:\>ping www.freebsd.org
> =20
> Pinging www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117] with 32 bytes of data:
> =20
> Reply from 216.136.204.117: bytes=3D32 time=3D172ms TTL=3D45
> Reply from 216.136.204.117: bytes=3D32 time=3D172ms TTL=3D45
> Reply from 216.136.204.117: bytes=3D32 time=3D172ms TTL=3D45
> Reply from 216.136.204.117: bytes=3D32 time=3D156ms TTL=3D45
> =20
> Ping statistics for 216.136.204.117:
>     Packets: Sent =3D 4, Received =3D 4, Lost =3D 0 (0% loss), =
Approximate=20
> round trip times in milli-seconds:
>     Minimum =3D 156ms, Maximum =3D  172ms, Average =3D  168ms
> =20
> C:\>
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> Now traceroute, well.., tracert:
> C:\>tracert www.freebsd.org
> =20
> Tracing route to www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> =20
>   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  192.168.1.1
>   2    31 ms    31 ms    16 ms  galileo-dsl1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.2]
>   3    16 ms    15 ms    31 ms  leucippus-ve-21.hq.zen.net.uk
> [62.3.80.118]
>   4    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  bolzano-ge-0-0.wh.zen.net.uk
> [62.3.80.86]
>   5    16 ms    16 ms    31 ms  195.16.169.89
>   6    31 ms    16 ms    31 ms  pos8-1.core1.London1.Level3.net
> [212.187.131.114
> ]
>   7    31 ms    31 ms    31 ms  ae0-11.mp1.London1.Level3.net
> [212.187.131.1]
>   8    32 ms    31 ms    31 ms  so-1-0-0.mp1.London2.Level3.net
> [212.187.128.49]
> =20
>   9   125 ms   125 ms    94 ms  so-1-0-0.bbr1.Washington1.level3.net
> [212.187.12
> 8.138]
>  10   172 ms   172 ms   172 ms  so-2-0-0.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net
> [64.159.0.218]
> =20
>  11   188 ms   171 ms   188 ms  gige10-1.ipcolo3.SanJose1.Level3.net
> [64.159.2.1
> 05]
>  12   172 ms     *        *     cust-int.level3.net [64.152.81.62]
>  13     *      172 ms   156 ms  ge-1-2-0.msr2.sc5.yahoo.com
> [216.115.101.230]
>  14   172 ms   172 ms   172 ms  vl47.bas1-m.sc5.yahoo.com
> [66.163.160.230]
>  15   172 ms   187 ms   172 ms  www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]
> =20
> Trace complete.
> C:\>
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> Needless to say there are no corresponding entries in=20
> /var/log/messages, nor /var/log/security.
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> Please let me know if you'd want to see my ipfw rules, run any further

> tests, etc. I didn't want this to go for too long, but I'll be willing

> to provide any info you might need in order to assist.
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> Thanks for the time.
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> Regards,
>=20
> Stacey
--=20
Stacey Roberts
B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science

Web: www.vickiandstacey.com



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