Thank you!

Ceri Davies setantae at submonkey.net
Sat Aug 30 13:52:22 BST 2003


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On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:39:19PM +0100, Jon Mercer wrote:
> Ceri Davies wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:24:50PM +0100, Jon Mercer wrote:
> >
> >>The problem with the spams in this list is that they originate from the=
=20
> >>Sobig.f worm, AFAICT. This means that someone needs to update their=20
> >>virus definitions.
> >
> >
> >Absolutely.  A quick scan of the 150 or so copies that I've received
> >indicates that all but 3 of them have come from the same /24, so I have
> >a reasonably good idea who (in my case) as well.
> >
> >
> >>Someone may however, go through the roof when they realise that a=20
> >>spammer is using their domain name as the apparent origin of spam. I=20
> >>did. Tragically, all you can effectively do is try to track down the IP=
=20
> >>address of the spammer from the Received: headers and report them to=20
> >>their ISP with a very nasty letter. Unless of course, you can get to=20
> >>them physically, in which case I advocate nailing them to the wall by=
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> >>their testicals, and asking them how much they want viagra now... :-/
> >
> >
> >Actually, if you're writing to the ISP, I'd suggest making it a nice=20
> >letter.
> >The people manning incoming communication are much more likely to deal w=
ith
> >your complaint properly if you hold back from calling them an asshole.
> >Give them the time and timezone that you received it, and all the header=
s,
> >and they'll get the job done.
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> Point taken, I'd never suggest being rude, but in the case of forgery,
> you need to point out that this is a form of identity theft, and may
> carry consequences for the ISP as well as the spammer if they are
> facilitating that. IPOF, the poor admins who have to deal with
> unscrupulous customers get all my sympathy, but I wouldn't want them to
> use that as an excuse for inaction!

True.  I was just thinking back to the days when I was hostmaster at ntl.com, =
and
the "unblock me now, you f*cker" mails somehow always got lower priority th=
an
the "I think you're blocking my server; could you tell me what you want us =
to
do?" ones ;-)  I even remember receiving a serious death threat from one co=
mpany
in particular, simply for not allowing them to spam via our smart hosts.  A=
h,
those were the days...

Abuse complaints, on the other hand, had to be dealt with either way, but it
was always slightly less soul destroying when they at least pretended to be
polite.

Ceri
--=20
User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR?
Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment.
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