Mail problems with

Scott Mitchell scott.mitchell at
Tue May 30 21:41:05 BST 2000

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 09:11:35PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 08:01:56PM +0100, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> > OTOH, they don't hijack outgoing SMTP connections, so I could quite happily 
> > deliver the mail directly to
> > 
> I am waiting for my CD to arrive from NTL. Could you explain that last
> sentence? You mean that you can send mail without using NTLs mail
> servers?

I could a few weeks ago, when I needed to get mail out to FreeBSD.ORG and
they were having the DNS problems mentioned previously.  Just take the DS
line out of your and away you go...

However, if ntl's dialup IP blocks ever get onto the various blacklists out 
there, lots of domains will start rejecting mail sent this way -- I was
quite surprised that it worked at all.  I'm back using the ntl relay partly 
to avoid the blacklisting if/when it happens, but mostly because mail gets
off my system quicker when it's going to something only one hop away :-)

The reference to hijacking refers to the setup used by FreeServe (and
probably other ISPs) -- any outgoing SMTP connections will be redirected to
their relay regardless of whether you specify a smarthost or not.  Again, I 
was pleasantly surprised that ntl didn't do this.



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