Nick > Feed them 100Mb stiff on a busy network card and they will choke once in > a while. They are cheap rubbish. Yeah, it is the RealTek 8139 card I have that hangs my FreeBSD box when I really really push the card hard. If I stream video at the full 100Mbps over my lan, my FreeBSD 3.4 box would lock up after about 30 seconds. Roger