2nd UK User Conference - call for papers?
martin.hopkins at insignia.com
Thu Jul 13 19:11:54 BST 2000
>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Ovens <mark at dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> writes:
Mark> On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 04:27:00PM +0100, David Marsh at home wrote:
>> On 12-Jul-00 Mark Ovens wrote:
>> > I was thinking about a topic I could offer to talk about at the next
>> > conference and decided on the Ports (what they are, how they work,
>> > keeping up to date, and something about "undocumented" features).
>> > Anyway, if the Windows thing doesn't prevail then consider this a firm
>> > offer from me.
>> That would be excellent too!
>> Perhaps if that could be expanded to "keeping up to date" in general?
>> I'm still running 3.2, and I've noticed recently that various recent ports
>> from freebsd.org seem to have a different port/makefile format which means
>> that I can't install them.
>> I sense that a major system upgrade will be in the offing soon, and
>> naturally this strikes fear into my heart. :-(
>> I've read about CVSup and CTM, but I don't know if these are really viable
>> options over a modem (thoughts of downloading hundreds of megabytes of
>> stuff, when I only have 35 hours of 'free' internet time, and flatmates who
>> want to use the phone ;-)
Mark> That's what put me off for so long. I read that the source tree was
Mark> over 200MB, but if you've got the CDs just install the sources from
Mark> there, install cvsup and start using it. The first time you run cvsup
Mark> you should run it with a special tag
Mark> (http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html#adopt) to
Mark> build a checkout file for the sources *you* have, then run it again
Mark> (without the special tag) to upgrade.
Mark> Those first 2 runs may take a couple of hours each, but after that it
Mark> shouldn't take much longer than 10-15 mins max if you run it a couple
Mark> of times a week.
Even at once a week it will rarely take more time than that, quite a
lot of that is fixed overhead i.e it will take a while to decide not t
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